Meurig
ab Ynyr Gwent
formerly ab Ynyr
Born about in Wales
[uncertain]
Ancestors [uncertain]
Son of Ynyr ap Ynyr
and Nesta ferch Gwrgan
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of
Elen ferch Ednyfed
— married
[date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants 
Father of
Ynyr ap Meurig
Died [date unknown]
[location unknown]
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Biography
Birth and Parents
Meurig was the son of ab Ynyr Gwent. He was born, say, 1030. [1]
Name
- Meurig ab Ynyr Gwent [1]
Birth Year Estimation
Meurig ab Ynyr Gwent was born, say, 1030. [1]
Wolcott estimates Ynyr's birth as 1030, Meurig as 1065, Ynyr Fychan as 1095, and Caradog as 1125. [2]
Marriage
He married Elen ferch Ednyfed ab Iorwerth of Crick
He married Elen ferch Ednyfed ab Iorwerth of Crick. Boyer notes that she was perhaps of the House of Terefor, and, if so, ap Iorwerth Hir ap Llywarch Gam ap Leuddica ap Tudor Trefor. [1]
Issue
They were the parents of Ynyr and Ynyr Fychan. [1]
Research Notes
Somerby Fraud
This person is part of a false pedigree of William Arnold, the immigrant to New England, created by Horatio G. Somerby in 1870. Individual parts of the pedigree may be correct, but many of the parts are incorrect and false. Somerby's fraud is described in detail at False Arnold Pedigree.
Sources
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 Carl Boyer 3rd. Medieval Welsh Ancestors of Certain Americans. Generally follows Bartrum. Santa Clarita, California: By the author, 2004. Meurig ab Ynyr Gwent is #2 on page 367.
- ↑ Darrell Wolcott, Ancient Wales Studies, The Herbert Family Pedigree Accessed 9 April 2021 jhd
- Charles Ragland's book Vol II
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Categories: Kingdom of Gwent | Horatio Gates Somerby Fraud | Wales Project Pre 1500 Managed Profiles | Wales Project Pre 1500 Managed Profiles - 11th Century
It's disturbing to me that in the pedigree of a Welshman who would be ancestor to any number of people in the UK and elsewhere, including myself, his entire biography is filled up with relatively modern Americans instead of information about his own life and times.
In the case of these profiles, the ilnformation about the fraud has been more easily accessible than actual facts about the Welsh nobility who were affected. The frauds have to be addressed, but the challenge is now to find real information to take precedence. These things take time.
And the bulk of the information about the fraud is indeed on its own free-space page, which is linked to this and other affecteed profiles.
edited by Jack Day
Ab Ynyr Gwent-2 and Ab Ynyr Gwent-1 appear to represent the same person because: Jack - These profiles look to be duplicates but one says he's part of a false pedigree and one doesn't. Are they different? If so - how? It looks like duplicate profiles are attached as his son also - and duplicate profiles for one grandson.
edited by Liz (Noland) Shifflett